Question:
Need advice: Hernia
Well, last week I noticed a buldge north of the belly button and east under my ribs. I showed it to the doctor and he said that it was a incisional hernia. Apparently, from what he said, when I had my gall bladder taken out 20 years ago, either the surgeon did a pissy job of closing me up, or as the doctor said, pretty common with any surgery on the abdominal wall. The muscles are weak at the site where I was opened up.
"What to do about it doc?"
"Watch it, if it gets bigger or starts hurting come on back in and I'll refer you to a surgeon." Once again, "thanks doc...."
"What about my weight lifting?"
"Uhmm, I dunno. Just take it easy."
Again another big "Thanks" to my favorite medical practicioner.
I do not, I will not stop lifting. Can't do it. It is a too important part of my life for that.
SO, here is the the upshot question. Is there a way to bind myself up to hold what ever is poking out when I lifting in? I did some research on line and some of the sites referred to this, but nothing specific.
Any suggestions to get me by until I finally have a blow out and can get the insurance to pay for the repairs?
I thank you.
A hernia is not to be messed with or joked about. I suggest that you take it easy until you can afford the costs of repair.
About your question, there is no way you can bind yourself from the outside so the inside won't tear.
Thank you Bob 1. FWIW, I am so angry that it is necessary to crack jokes about this or go insane.
Okay I have calmed down some.
Let me change my question.
I would assume that dead lifts, heavy squats and core work is out. Without sounding like a dork, can I still do arms, shoulders and back stuff and maybe half squats? Things that don't put stress on the abdominal wall?
Okay I have calmed down some.
Let me change my question.
I would assume that dead lifts, heavy squats and core work is out. Without sounding like a dork, can I still do arms, shoulders and back stuff and maybe half squats? Things that don't put stress on the abdominal wall? I know how frustrated you feel about your training being derailed. I am in a similar predicament having to face a significant wrist surgery in the near future that will probably result in altering my ability to engage in heavy weight training. A major let down to say the least
In your situation the problem is that intra-abdominal pressure due to holding your breath and to the strain of lifting these weights may increase the size of your hernia and possibly create problems for you. Good luck
Been there done that. Had a resection done three years ago. After a few months I noticed a bulge, thought it was just some excess fat. I still had a bit of swelling in the area I suppose. My uncle said it was a hernia and the doc confirmed it.
Because of the severity of the operation the doc wanted to wait a year before he went in. He said it posed no danger due to the size. I'm a carpenter and working sucked. The thing grew enormous and eventually I got stoped by security in a NYC building. Perhaps some kind of abdominal girdle or wrap would have slowed down the tearing, don't know.
Most of these hernia ops are outpatient deals and I believe you're released the same day or the next. I was hospitalized for five days. One of the attending docs removed my catheter the first day and it had to be reinserted a day later because I could not pee. Surgeon was pissed.
Can't give you any advice on keeping the thing manageable. I'm assuming they sliced you as opposed to removing it laparoscopically .Probably better off getting it done sooner than later if money is an issue. If it gets really large you may be in for an extended stay, though I can't say for sure. My doctor submitted a pre op thing to the insurance company and it was denied for the extended stay. I don't understand all the insurance crap but in the end it was paid for.
Roughly 15% of the people who have undergone resections like I did end up with incisional hernias. Like the doctor said it is not uncommon.Problems due to post op adhesions are a big problem in abdominal surgery. Not sure if it applies in your case, but it did in mine. Abdominal surgery should not be taken lightly.
Here's a link to one study, read it, and ask your doctor about it. See if it applies in your case. It sure as hell did in mine. Other than the hernia I was admitted twice for five days, about a month and a half after my resection, and six months after my hernia repair and had few near misses later on. Blockages are painful and dangerous and not uncommon. I'm one of those people that the link below talks about and have encountered a few people over the years who have suffered similarly. Again ask your doctor about it and see if this will apply to you, different location than mine.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...0922837&EDATE=
Should you get the surgery follow the docs orders. Your main concern should be healing and not maintaining your sixpack or arm size. I can't believe the number of people who piss and moan about having to miss six weeks of workouts., usually not competitors or athletes. Get it right the first time. Each successive time they go in, it gets harder to repair and it ain't cheap if you have to stay for a few days..
good luck
steve
had one and worked out with it for years before I got it fixed. I was lucky. You can actually have it twist on you and kill a section of yer guts! Get it fixed!
get on the surgical waitlist now and by the time the surgery
is scheduled you will be in bleepin agony ...
i had my gallbladder removed five years ago ... then
the hernia started in my belly-button ... it was small
but painful ... the bigger it got over time the greater
the pain ...
by the time the surgery was scheduled i was in agony ...
it was supposed to be done by local and out-patient and
they had to knock me out totally and i spent three days
in the hospital ...
i could barely get out of bed and going to the bathroom was
a horror ... it took 8 weeks before i felt good enough to just
do normal stuff and MONTHS before i could even think about
exercise ...
here it is a year later and i still get the occasional 'twinge' ...
this is not something that is interupting your workouts, it is
something that can F-up your life ...
my 'hernia' did strangulate a small part of my intestine (about
the length of my thumb) and that kind of pain you don't want
to mess with ...
each successive surgery takes about double the time to heal
as the problem is that the peritoneum is very thin tissue and
does not 'sew up' very easily ... the surgeon will use a piece
of plastic mesh (looks like window screen) and sew that into
the muscle tissue and then sew the peritoneum to the mesh ...
if all goes well, the peritoneum actually 'grows' into the mesh
and is good for life ...
tear it again and there is less and less tissue to work with ...
friend came by after surgery and told me about his father-in-law's
'hernia' and since he tore it more than 3 times they can't repair
it ... he's walking around with a cauliflower sized bag of his own
guts hanging out ...
think about how that's going to look with a six pack ...
Just a reminder, he's talking about an incisional hernia, not an inquinal hernia.
1 Attachment(s) Just a reminder, he's talking about an incisional hernia, not an inquinal hernia. Mine was incisional. No major pain or danger of strangulation with mine, it was already pretty large when I showed it to the doc. I probably tore it getting up out of bed, or maybe coughing or sneezing. Don't know.
When my stomach started growling you could hear it over a normal conversation. The hernia almost extended the length of the original incision.
don't have a before pic that shows the size of the thing, but this is an after pic that'll give you an idea of the size. Lot's of swelling, good sized piece of mesh. Find a way to get it done before the thing grows out of control. Good luck.
Thank you all. I was pissy about the whole thing. It wasn't the six pack that was bothering me. I have spent the last almost year of my life focusing on getting excess weight off (70 pounds now), trying to look decent. I do not care what the sociologists say, people treat fat guys (and women) like shit. They see you as a lazy slob no matter why you gained weight. It is a pretty big let down after all this work to be told to lay off.
I am meeting with the the hread trainer for the college football team where I work tomorrow. He said he may be able to give me some suggestions of things I can do until the doctor gets around to setting me up with a surgeon to fix this. The battle is with, what else, the insurance company.
Well, last week I noticed a buldge north of the belly button and east under my ribs. I showed it to the doctor and he said that it was a incisional hernia. Apparently, from what he said, when I had my gall bladder taken out 20 years ago, either the surgeon did a pissy job of closing me up, or as the doctor said, pretty common with any surgery on the abdominal wall. The muscles are weak at the site where I was opened up.
"What to do about it doc?"
"Watch it, if it gets bigger or starts hurting come on back in and I'll refer you to a surgeon." Once again, "thanks doc...."
"What about my weight lifting?"
"Uhmm, I dunno. Just take it easy."
Again another big "Thanks" to my favorite medical practicioner.
I do not, I will not stop lifting. Can't do it. It is a too important part of my life for that.
SO, here is the the upshot question. Is there a way to bind myself up to hold what ever is poking out when I lifting in? I did some research on line and some of the sites referred to this, but nothing specific.
Any suggestions to get me by until I finally have a blow out and can get the insurance to pay for the repairs?
I thank you. Insurance will pay for it. I had a hernia in my groin, the right side, a little piece of tissue was poking through the hole that the vas deferens comes through into the scrotum.
The surgery took about 2 hours, it was outpatient, laparoscopic, and I resumed lifting in 1 week (you're supposed to wait 4 weeks). I had my hernia for a year, so unless the tissue gets pinched off and you start getting gangrene, don't worry about it. If you ever get a fever and get really sick and your hernia hurts extremely bad, go to the emergency room.
Just a reminder, he's talking about an incisional hernia, not an inquinal hernia. that's what i was talking about ... I had laproscopic surgery
for the gallbladder removal and one
of the incisions above my belly button ... which is where the
'hernia' went when the peritoneum tore ...
to fix it, the surgeon made another incision over the original
one above my belly button and inserted the patch, sewed it
in place and sewed me back up ... for such a tiny cut (a bit
longer than an inch) the pain was incredible.
Well, last week I noticed a buldge north of the belly button and east under my ribs. I showed it to the doctor and he said that it was a incisional hernia. Apparently, from what he said, when I had my gall bladder taken out 20 years ago, either the surgeon did a pissy job of closing me up, or as the doctor said, pretty common with any surgery on the abdominal wall. The muscles are weak at the site where I was opened up.
"What to do about it doc?"
"Watch it, if it gets bigger or starts hurting come on back in and I'll refer you to a surgeon." Once again, "thanks doc...."
"What about my weight lifting?"
"Uhmm, I dunno. Just take it easy."
Again another big "Thanks" to my favorite medical practicioner.
I do not, I will not stop lifting. Can't do it. It is a too important part of my life for that.
SO, here is the the upshot question. Is there a way to bind myself up to hold what ever is poking out when I lifting in? I did some research on line and some of the sites referred to this, but nothing specific.
Any suggestions to get me by until I finally have a blow out and can get the insurance to pay for the repairs?
I thank you.
Answer:
A hernia is not to be messed with or joked about. I suggest that you take it easy until you can afford the costs of repair.
About your question, there is no way you can bind yourself from the outside so the inside won't tear.
Answer:
Thank you Bob 1. FWIW, I am so angry that it is necessary to crack jokes about this or go insane.
Answer:
Okay I have calmed down some.
Let me change my question.
I would assume that dead lifts, heavy squats and core work is out. Without sounding like a dork, can I still do arms, shoulders and back stuff and maybe half squats? Things that don't put stress on the abdominal wall?
Answer:
Okay I have calmed down some.
Let me change my question.
I would assume that dead lifts, heavy squats and core work is out. Without sounding like a dork, can I still do arms, shoulders and back stuff and maybe half squats? Things that don't put stress on the abdominal wall? I know how frustrated you feel about your training being derailed. I am in a similar predicament having to face a significant wrist surgery in the near future that will probably result in altering my ability to engage in heavy weight training. A major let down to say the least
In your situation the problem is that intra-abdominal pressure due to holding your breath and to the strain of lifting these weights may increase the size of your hernia and possibly create problems for you. Good luck
Answer:
Been there done that. Had a resection done three years ago. After a few months I noticed a bulge, thought it was just some excess fat. I still had a bit of swelling in the area I suppose. My uncle said it was a hernia and the doc confirmed it.
Because of the severity of the operation the doc wanted to wait a year before he went in. He said it posed no danger due to the size. I'm a carpenter and working sucked. The thing grew enormous and eventually I got stoped by security in a NYC building. Perhaps some kind of abdominal girdle or wrap would have slowed down the tearing, don't know.
Most of these hernia ops are outpatient deals and I believe you're released the same day or the next. I was hospitalized for five days. One of the attending docs removed my catheter the first day and it had to be reinserted a day later because I could not pee. Surgeon was pissed.
Can't give you any advice on keeping the thing manageable. I'm assuming they sliced you as opposed to removing it laparoscopically .Probably better off getting it done sooner than later if money is an issue. If it gets really large you may be in for an extended stay, though I can't say for sure. My doctor submitted a pre op thing to the insurance company and it was denied for the extended stay. I don't understand all the insurance crap but in the end it was paid for.
Roughly 15% of the people who have undergone resections like I did end up with incisional hernias. Like the doctor said it is not uncommon.Problems due to post op adhesions are a big problem in abdominal surgery. Not sure if it applies in your case, but it did in mine. Abdominal surgery should not be taken lightly.
Here's a link to one study, read it, and ask your doctor about it. See if it applies in your case. It sure as hell did in mine. Other than the hernia I was admitted twice for five days, about a month and a half after my resection, and six months after my hernia repair and had few near misses later on. Blockages are painful and dangerous and not uncommon. I'm one of those people that the link below talks about and have encountered a few people over the years who have suffered similarly. Again ask your doctor about it and see if this will apply to you, different location than mine.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...0922837&EDATE=
Should you get the surgery follow the docs orders. Your main concern should be healing and not maintaining your sixpack or arm size. I can't believe the number of people who piss and moan about having to miss six weeks of workouts., usually not competitors or athletes. Get it right the first time. Each successive time they go in, it gets harder to repair and it ain't cheap if you have to stay for a few days..
good luck
steve
Answer:
had one and worked out with it for years before I got it fixed. I was lucky. You can actually have it twist on you and kill a section of yer guts! Get it fixed!
Answer:
get on the surgical waitlist now and by the time the surgery
is scheduled you will be in bleepin agony ...
i had my gallbladder removed five years ago ... then
the hernia started in my belly-button ... it was small
but painful ... the bigger it got over time the greater
the pain ...
by the time the surgery was scheduled i was in agony ...
it was supposed to be done by local and out-patient and
they had to knock me out totally and i spent three days
in the hospital ...
i could barely get out of bed and going to the bathroom was
a horror ... it took 8 weeks before i felt good enough to just
do normal stuff and MONTHS before i could even think about
exercise ...
here it is a year later and i still get the occasional 'twinge' ...
this is not something that is interupting your workouts, it is
something that can F-up your life ...
my 'hernia' did strangulate a small part of my intestine (about
the length of my thumb) and that kind of pain you don't want
to mess with ...
each successive surgery takes about double the time to heal
as the problem is that the peritoneum is very thin tissue and
does not 'sew up' very easily ... the surgeon will use a piece
of plastic mesh (looks like window screen) and sew that into
the muscle tissue and then sew the peritoneum to the mesh ...
if all goes well, the peritoneum actually 'grows' into the mesh
and is good for life ...
tear it again and there is less and less tissue to work with ...
friend came by after surgery and told me about his father-in-law's
'hernia' and since he tore it more than 3 times they can't repair
it ... he's walking around with a cauliflower sized bag of his own
guts hanging out ...
think about how that's going to look with a six pack ...
Answer:
Just a reminder, he's talking about an incisional hernia, not an inquinal hernia.
Answer:
1 Attachment(s) Just a reminder, he's talking about an incisional hernia, not an inquinal hernia. Mine was incisional. No major pain or danger of strangulation with mine, it was already pretty large when I showed it to the doc. I probably tore it getting up out of bed, or maybe coughing or sneezing. Don't know.
When my stomach started growling you could hear it over a normal conversation. The hernia almost extended the length of the original incision.
don't have a before pic that shows the size of the thing, but this is an after pic that'll give you an idea of the size. Lot's of swelling, good sized piece of mesh. Find a way to get it done before the thing grows out of control. Good luck.
Answer:
Thank you all. I was pissy about the whole thing. It wasn't the six pack that was bothering me. I have spent the last almost year of my life focusing on getting excess weight off (70 pounds now), trying to look decent. I do not care what the sociologists say, people treat fat guys (and women) like shit. They see you as a lazy slob no matter why you gained weight. It is a pretty big let down after all this work to be told to lay off.
I am meeting with the the hread trainer for the college football team where I work tomorrow. He said he may be able to give me some suggestions of things I can do until the doctor gets around to setting me up with a surgeon to fix this. The battle is with, what else, the insurance company.
Answer:
Well, last week I noticed a buldge north of the belly button and east under my ribs. I showed it to the doctor and he said that it was a incisional hernia. Apparently, from what he said, when I had my gall bladder taken out 20 years ago, either the surgeon did a pissy job of closing me up, or as the doctor said, pretty common with any surgery on the abdominal wall. The muscles are weak at the site where I was opened up.
"What to do about it doc?"
"Watch it, if it gets bigger or starts hurting come on back in and I'll refer you to a surgeon." Once again, "thanks doc...."
"What about my weight lifting?"
"Uhmm, I dunno. Just take it easy."
Again another big "Thanks" to my favorite medical practicioner.
I do not, I will not stop lifting. Can't do it. It is a too important part of my life for that.
SO, here is the the upshot question. Is there a way to bind myself up to hold what ever is poking out when I lifting in? I did some research on line and some of the sites referred to this, but nothing specific.
Any suggestions to get me by until I finally have a blow out and can get the insurance to pay for the repairs?
I thank you. Insurance will pay for it. I had a hernia in my groin, the right side, a little piece of tissue was poking through the hole that the vas deferens comes through into the scrotum.
The surgery took about 2 hours, it was outpatient, laparoscopic, and I resumed lifting in 1 week (you're supposed to wait 4 weeks). I had my hernia for a year, so unless the tissue gets pinched off and you start getting gangrene, don't worry about it. If you ever get a fever and get really sick and your hernia hurts extremely bad, go to the emergency room.
Answer:
Just a reminder, he's talking about an incisional hernia, not an inquinal hernia. that's what i was talking about ... I had laproscopic surgery
for the gallbladder removal and one
of the incisions above my belly button ... which is where the
'hernia' went when the peritoneum tore ...
to fix it, the surgeon made another incision over the original
one above my belly button and inserted the patch, sewed it
in place and sewed me back up ... for such a tiny cut (a bit
longer than an inch) the pain was incredible.